{"id":8895,"date":"2011-10-08T10:03:50","date_gmt":"2011-10-07T21:03:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/?p=8895"},"modified":"2011-10-08T10:03:50","modified_gmt":"2011-10-07T21:03:50","slug":"sense-of-place-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/2011\/10\/08\/sense-of-place-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Sense of Place 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-492\" href=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/2010\/07\/03\/the-hat-delivers\/thornspellcover_small-2\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-492\" title=\"thornspellcover_small\" src=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/thornspellcover_small.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"140\" height=\"198\" \/><\/a>On <a href=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/2011\/10\/06\/sense-of-place\/\">Thursday I also posted about Sense of Place<\/a>, mainly discussing it in the context of Haarth, <a href=\"http:\/\/helenlowe.info\/wallofnight.html\">The Wall of Night series<\/a> world.<\/p>\n<p>Luke commented saying: <em>&#8220;Do you think it\u2019s easier to achieve a strong sense of place in an  alternate world, like Haarth in \u201cThe Heir of Night\u201d, as opposed to  \u201cThornspell\u201d which you have said in a number of places is pretty much  this world and \u2018almost but not quite\u2019 Holy Roman Empire?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I have reflected on this a little and overall I don&#8217;t think it is &#8220;easier.&#8221; At one level, creating an alternate world may give you more freedom to create things the way you want, but conversely, choosing places within this world for your setting leaves you free to draw out the details that support your story and focus on other aspects of the story.<\/p>\n<p>Using <strong><em>Thornspell<\/em><\/strong> as an example, sense of place is still very strong there&#8211;in the opening sequence where Sigismund first encounters the enchanted wood, and the later forest of Thorn; in the description of the sleeping palace and also the capital city of &#8216;kingdom not so very far away&#8217; where the story is set.<\/p>\n<p><em><em><strong><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-8899\" href=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/2011\/10\/08\/sense-of-place-2\/american_gods\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-8899\" title=\"American_gods\" src=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/American_gods-99x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"99\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/American_gods-99x150.jpg 99w, https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/American_gods-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/American_gods.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 99px) 100vw, 99px\" \/><\/a>Thornspell<\/strong><\/em> <\/em>has an historical setting, but I can also think of some contemporary urban fantasies where the use of real-world places are used to powerful &#8216;world building&#8217; effect. Neil Gaiman&#8217;s <strong><em>American Gods<\/em><\/strong> would be one for me, also Tim Powers&#8217; Las Vegas and Los Angeles in <em><strong>Last Call<\/strong><\/em> and <em><strong>Expiration Date<\/strong><\/em> respectively. In terms of almost-but-not-quite-this-contemporary-world building, I personally don&#8217;t think you can go past Robin McKinley&#8217;s urban fantasy, <em><strong>Sunshine<\/strong><\/em>, or Charles De Lint&#8217;s Newport, the setting for many of his novels, all of which have a unqiuely North american flavour<a rel=\"attachment wp-att-8900\" href=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/2011\/10\/08\/sense-of-place-2\/sunshine-2\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-8900\" title=\"Sunshine\" src=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Sunshine-99x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"99\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Sunshine-99x150.jpg 99w, https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Sunshine-198x300.jpg 198w, https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/10\/Sunshine.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 99px) 100vw, 99px\" \/><\/a> &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In all these stories the sense of place is very strong, almost a character in its own right, and I feel that this sort of world building would have taken considerable imagination and craft. And I know that I personally put as much care into the world building aspect of  <em><strong>Thornspell <\/strong><\/em>as I did with both <em><strong>The Heir of Night<\/strong><\/em> and <em><strong>The Gathering of the Lost<\/strong><\/em>. So my &#8216;long answer&#8217; to your excellent question, Luke, is that I don&#8217;t think it is necessarily easier, just different&#8212;and as always, with (imho) good fiction, driven by the needs of the story, not the preferences of the author.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Thursday I also posted about Sense of Place, mainly discussing it in the context of Haarth, The Wall of Night series world. Luke commented saying: &#8220;Do you think it\u2019s easier to achieve a strong sense of place in an alternate world, like Haarth in \u201cThe Heir of Night\u201d, as opposed to \u201cThornspell\u201d which you [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8895","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-about-my-books","category-influences-on-story"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8895","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8895"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8895\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8906,"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8895\/revisions\/8906"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8895"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8895"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/helenlowe.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8895"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}