Pick ‘n’ Mix
Just one of those quick posts today with a few ‘all sorts’ in the mix from which you may pick and choose.
Gathering Status Report:
Firstly, as those who have been following my What I’ve Been Doing Posts know, I am working toward a completion date for the GR (Great Revision) of The Gathering of the Lost (The Wall of Night Book Two) for 1 July. On Monday, with post-earthquake clean up starting all over again, I thought this goal had been blown completely out of the water. But two wonderful people yesterday and four today basically said: “We’ll do the digging Helen, you stick with the book.”
I don’t know if you can imagine how wonderful that was! I still felt horribly guilty, of course, and just having digging out happening, as well as the guys who turned up to water blast the sewer, was disruptive to the writing process—but the really important thing was that both today and yesterday the book progressed. Not as far or as much as I’d planned prior to Monday’s earthquakes, but the fact is, the book is closer to completion today than it would otherwise have been.
Meeting 1 July is still going to be incredibly tight because it was tight anyway and I’ve effectively lost around 2 days, but there’s still hope—and that’s entirely due to Andrew, Joff, Dave, Caroline, Susie and Peter. Thank you, guys: you rock. And yes, you will all be in the acknowledgments for the book. No question.
Earthquake Mini Report:
In addition to the above, the earthquake report from the ‘burbs for today comprises a brief note that aftershocks continue, with around 34 recorded yesterday, the largest being a 5.0 magnitude aftershock, at a depth of 6 kilometres, around 6.30 in the morning.
Otherwise status is much the same as yesterday other than the “happy news ” from the experts that there is a 30% chance we will get another 6.0-7.0 magnitude earthquake within the next month. Not the best news. The experts also confirmed my suspicion that the 12 to 18 month ‘clock’ for earthquake acitivty to wind down restarts after each major earthquake event—so that’s definitely 12-18 months from now, not September 4 last year.
Anyway, you can read all about it here.
Follow Up From Monday’s Post on the Gemmell Awards:
The most exciting thing about the follow up to the Gemmell Awards post I did on Monday is that the awards will be announced tomorrow, Friday 17 UK time in London. So only 1 more sleep to find out how my friend Mary Victoria’s novel Tymon’s Flight has fared in the Morningstar category for Best Fantasy Newcomer/Debut, and her husband Frank Victoria in the Ravenheart category for Best Fantasy Book Jacket/Artist.
But I also mentioned that I had observed something about the total line-up of finalists once I set them all out in 1 place on the blog here, something that made me think that Mary Victoria had done not just very well, but extra well to make it onto the list. I invited you all to guess what my observation was, but no one took me up on that. So here’s a further clue: the observation lead me to believe that both Mary Victoria and NK Jemisin had done extra well to get on the list.
Go back and take a look at the total list across all categories, here, if you need to refresh your memory. So you do you see it yet?
Okay, here’s what I realized when I looked down that list: 100% of the authors in the Legend category; 60% of the authors in the Morningstar category; and 80% of the artists are men. Only 19% of those shortlisted across all categories are women. In terms of the authors, I am curious to know whether this reflects the actual numbers of women writing epic/high/heroic fantasy; or is simply a one-off for this year from which no particular inferences should be drawn; or whether it is a reflection of an alleged phenomenon I first reported under my Why Write Epic Fantasy post, here, i.e. that:
” epic fantasy as a genre is misogynist … [in terms of] … the attention paid to female authors of the genre, i.e. your chances of being a successful epic fantasy author are considerably reduced if you’re a gal”
So given that the Gemmells are reader’s choice awards, does the final lineup reflect prejudice amongst readers against epic/high/heroic fantasy openly penned by women? Or simply mean that the guys are better at mobilising their voting fanbase? Or that they write better books? Or maybe they just wrote better books this year?
All interesting reflections—so do any of you have any thoughts to offer?
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Addendum:
Following on from our discussion through today, I’ve done a little more hunting around for the two previous years in which the Gemmell have been awarded and here’s the gender breakdown:
In 2009 only one award, the Legend Award for Best Fantasy Novel of the Year, was made and the shortlist of five comprised four male and one female author (Juliet Marillier.) Percentage-wise, that’s an 80:20 split in favour of male authors.
The Morningstar and Ravenheart Awards, for Best Fantasy Newcomer/Debut and Best Fantasy Book Jacket/Artist respectively, were added in 2010.
As in 2011, no female authors were shortlisted for the Legend Award (a 100:0 ratio); one author was nominated for the Morningstar (80:20); and four(!) women out of 10 were included in the Ravenheart lineup—a massive 40%, although all were part of artistic collaborations rather than sole artists. The overall ratio for authors only was 10% (it’s 20% this year) and for authors and artists was 25%, slightly more than this year.
And in the 3 years of the award only one female author has ever made the final shortlist for the Legend Award: that’s a 93:7 percentage ratio in favour of male authors—and I am reasonably sure that in excess of 7% of authors being published in epic fantasy are women.
So thems the stats, but here’s another really interesting new observation (for me anyway!) This one relates solely to the Legend Award, simply because the Morningstar is for debut authors so the lineup has to change every year.
In the 3 years that the Legend has been awarded:
- Brandon Sanderson has been shortlisted every year; in two of those years he has been shortlisted again in conjunction with Robert Jordan (deceased) for completion of the Wheel of Time series;
- Pierre Pevel, Joe Abercrombie, and Brent Weeks have all been finalists in 2 out of the 3 years—again, together with Brandon Sanderson/Robert Jordan.
So out of a potential 16 finalist slots over 3 years, Brandon Sanderson has occupied 5 of those slots, and another six have been taken up by Pevel, Abercrombie and Weeks. That’s 69% of the finalist slots occupied by just five writers.
Fascinating, huh?
Aah, that was what you saw.
I never thought of the writers gender.
I think they’re the best books written this year.
I hope that’s why they’re on the ballot anyway.
Jan, I hope so too, but there is a lot of talk on this topic out there so it’s definitely interesting to consider aspects such as what percentage of women as opposed to men are published in epic/heroic/high fantasy and see if there’s any correlation with awards over time. The ‘Best Novel’ category of the Hugo is certainly 80% women this year, but I don’t think that percentage is consistent over time.
Omg, I never realised that until you pointed it out. Huh. I guess I’m still naively hoping it doesn’t matter…
I remember being shocked when I came across a post in a forum discussing the Gemmell finalists for this year. The poster remarked, “I don’t know what that NK Jemisin’s chick lit is doing on this list.” My first thought in response to that was, “I guess you haven’t read her book, then…”
I suppose if we’re going to get an accurate representation of the male vs female author breakdown for this award we’d have to look at it the results over several years. I can’t help hoping it’s more than 20% overall.
I hope so, too. And agree that the comment re NK Jemisin is fairly ignorant. Certainly the book has romantic elements but I actually thought the plot was strong, original and interesting Fantasy–well worthy of a place on both the Gemmells and Hugo shortlists. I tried to look at the past two years the awards have been going but couldn’t find the finalists lists. And I have particiapted in forums where one frequently sees requests for recommendations that specify both a male protagonist and a male author (but rarely the other way around; sometimes though.)
And of course, as I said to Jan, the other statistic one would have to look at is what percentage of female authors are published in the epic genre: if it’s 20% then a 20% representation in the awards as well might not be out of the way. My ‘gut’ feeling though is that the percentage of women being published in the subgenre is higher than that.
On the earthquake front: A big huzzah to the diggers and helpers. You deserve it!
Ohhh I’m just hoping that the guys rocked the books this year and it’s not fixed or prejuice or anything. It is 2011, after all!
Chelsea, I’m definitely sure it’s not fixed! I have managed to find the 2009 & 2010 finalists though and the figures appear fairly consistent. I’m going to do an addendum to the post based on what I’ve gleaned.:)
I never even thought of that on the author front. I wonder how much that has to do too with who the judges are and the ideal that high fantasy is mostly written by and read by men. Which I do believe we all know is false. Just the more established names are but even that is changing.
And that is so awesome that so many are helping out!
Donna, the Gemmells are publisher nominated and reader voted, so I think it will come down to a combination of who is writing the books that are being published and what the readers like–and maybe more men are still writing/being published in that sort of fantasy. Or there’s a hard core of more traditional readers who are active in voting. I definitely agree that it isn’t just men who like epic stories (puts hand up.) And people are perfectly entitled to like what they like and vote for it, too!
I’m also about to add in a few more observations/stats by way of an addendum to the post.
So happy you have awesome people around you! 😀
About the Gemmell Awards, I always thought there were more men writing epic fantsy than women, bacause maybe this genre appeals more to men (even if this is my favorite genre and I’m pretty sure I’m a woman :P)
Giada, I suspect there are overall more men than women, but without doing a proper survey my intuitive feeling, thinking about authors I like and read, is that the ratio of men to women published in the genre is more like 65:35 or 60:40 on a good day. My feeling is that both a better representation of women authors overall, plus a wider spread of authors generally (for example, Steven Erikson is a major epic fantasy author and he has never made the cut) would be exciting to see, but it is a reader voted award so for that to happen readers will have to actively nominate and vote for a wider range of works. And I hope even talking about the awards like this will get them more on the radar.
So, it’s all over. Sanderson got the Legend again – well deserved, and no big surprises there. 🙂 I must say I was floored not to see Jemisin leave with the Morningstar, but… *shrugs*
Was it the Legend again for Brandon Sanderson? I thought this was the first time he had won it? Will have to go back and check, but I thought it was Sapkowski and MacNeill previously? I am sorry that Tymon’s Flight missed out “this time” but I think even getting hsortlisted in an international competition like this is a pretty big deal. I haven’t read the Darius Hinks novel—am not even sure it is readily available here in NZ—but I agree that The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms is a good read.
Oops, you’re right, Sanderson was shortlisted but he hasn’t actually won it before this year, has he?
Thanks for the kind words re TF, Helen… 🙂
Ah, the kind words were easy-aisy …:)